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Wednesday, 27-May-2009 16:32 Email | Share | | Bookmark
Saying Goodbye to Dave

Wreaths outside the RoD
Wreaths outside the RoD
Wreaths outside the RoD
Waiting in the rain at Falconwood
Wreaths at Falconwood
Around a hundred mourners, most of them regulars at The Rose of Denmark, went this afternoon to a rainy Falconwood Crematorium to say their farewells to Dave Fowler, the RoD barman for many years.

The CofE minister quoted Churchill during her eulogy and said that Dave had been 'a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma'. I think she hit the nail clean on the head. We all thought we knew him, but in reality we knew almost nothing about him at all. In spite of this we'll miss him a lot for the little we did know.

Really sorry to hear the news of Dave the barman's death, on behalf of our Preston Supporters Group I would like to offer our condolences to all who knew him. We only visited twice but on both occasions this guy was tremendous with us and a true charactor. R I P Dave Thu 28-May-2009 06:33
Posted by:Geoff Ollerton geoff@psg.me.uk
Thank you for your kind comments, Geoff.

Unfortunately for away supporters it was after the game, when the police require that it's home fans only in the pub, that we saw most of Dave. He was the doorkeeper at the back door, and I always exchanged a few words with him as he let us in, either about our result or West Ham's. After the news of his death I was convinced that we'd seen him as usual at the final game against Norwich, but by then he was already being treated in hospital for a lung infection.

Kath and Dermot of the Rose of Denmark did him proud on the day of his funeral. He was a genuinely nice bloke, and it was heartwarming to see how many people, both regulars and Charlton supporters, came to say Goodbye.
Fri 29-May-2009 09:24
Posted by:David Hatch dhatch@btinternet.com
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Thursday, 21-May-2009 13:22 Email | Share | | Bookmark
Playoffs weekend - nostalgia

From today's Guardian ......
"It's the play-offs at the weekend and what better reason to revisit the mother of all play-off finals, Charlton v Sunderland in 1998? Six goals in 90 minutes - including a looping header from Richard Rufus - plus another two in extra-time and then penalties. Sit back and enjoy".

You'll find the nostalgic six minute video at www.tinyurl.com/p6k3bn - bookmark it now ready to play in those disappointing moments in the next couple of seasons.

It'd cheer me up if I knew that Phil Parkinson was going to show it to next season's squad as an example of great teamwork and committed, motivated players, i.e. what Charlton supporters expect of them.

I forwarded the link to Mark Kinsella suggesting he show it to the team next season and tell them what a committed, passionate Charlton team can achieve. Fri 22-May-2009 09:40
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Thursday, 14-May-2009 09:12 Email | Share | | Bookmark
David Arthur Fowler

Season 2008/09
The news of Dave's death came as I was preparing the Members of the Opposition composite image for 2008/09, and it seemed appropriate to include him in it - see photo.

Dave, together with Kath and Dermot of the Rose of Denmark, was a significant part of our day out, providing fast and friendly service even when under pressure. I'd also dropped in fairly often between matches when things were quieter and had chatted with him a few times. A really nice bloke - friendly and slightly reserved but steely and resolute when turning away persistent away supporters at the back door after the match.

It seems that he had no relatives and that, unlike professional footballers and grasping MPs, he had virtually no assets, which means that a collection is being organised in the RoD to pay for his funeral.

The funeral will be on Wednesday 27th May at Falconwood crematorium. The hearse will be leaving the RoD at 11.30am, if anyone would like to pay their last respects. I'm planning to go as it would be dreadful if there were only a handful of people there to see him off.

I still can't really believe he's gone - it's only three weeks since we last saw him.

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Sunday, 10-May-2009 21:56 Email | Share | | Bookmark
RIP Dave

Dave the barman, died May 2009
Word has been circulating that Dave, the barman in the Rose of Denmark for many years, had a fall recently and subsequently died. I was convinced that he was at the back door letting home fans in after the final game of the season, but others have since persuaded me that this wasn't so.

Dave was a thoroughly nice bloke and a good friend to the RoD regulars. He'll be very sorely missed.

Served me on my infrequent visits to the ROD. Very sad news RIP Tue 12-May-2009 13:33
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Sunday, 3-May-2009 16:56 Email | Share | | Bookmark
'Stand up if you're going down'

CAFC 4 Norwich 2, 03/05/2009
Well, we stood up - boths sets of supporters. In the end Norwich's relegation came regardless of the result at The Valley, since Barnsley beat Plymouth away to make our result irrelevant. Before the game there were wicked thoughts that if, somehow, both Norwich and Barnsley went into administration, we'd stay up

We're not used to being three goals up in half an hour, but we're certainly no strangers to blowing a lead so when Norwich pulled one back we feared the worst. In the end, it was a heartening display from a young team, with no less than six local lads on the pitch as the game ended.

Even Youga and Butterfield, neither of whom are all that popular with sections of the crowd, did their bit, and Deon Burton scored the first Charlton hat trick since that remarkable and wholly unexpected flurry from Kevin Lisbie against Liverpool over five years ago.

The team did enough on the day to encourage a surprisngly large number of supporters to stay on for a while after the final whistle, and perhaps also enough to persuade a reasonable number of them to renew their season tickets.

So, it's time again to collate the season's match day photos and frame them for display in The Rose of Denmark. We failed to get photos of visiting supporters at six of the twentythree home games, which is disappointing, but there are still enough for a decent display. When I get a moment I'll work out how many photos we've taken so far and of how many clubs - after all, next season we'll be visited by loads of supporters who've never been to the RoD before.

David, thank you for your regular Fotopage submissions. They are appreciated. Hopefully a League One version will be maintained. Cheers, Bob Mon 4-May-2009 02:21
Posted by:Bob Miller
Yes, Bob, we still plan to carry on next season. Thanks for your support! Wed 6-May-2009 10:29
Posted by:David Hatch
David, just recieved the update and noticed that our lot have made 'the photo' for the second year running! We are privileged to be amongst some true football fans, what a pity (cup draw apart) we won't be seeing you there next year. One of our best away days of the season without doubt.

Keep up the good work and please keep on sending the updates - let's see the Addicks back in the Championship at the first time of asking I just hope that we won't be swapping places!

Good Luck for next season.
Thu 28-May-2009 06:45
Posted by:Geoff Ollerton geoff@psg.me.uk
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Friday, 24-Apr-2009 19:21 Email | Share | | Bookmark
Mismanaging public opinion

The pressure is gently building up amongst supporters, it seems, for the club to call time on Phil Parkinson or for the lad himself to 'do the decent thing'.

It can't be easy as an inexperienced manager of a struggling club, but PP isn't doing himself any favours with some of his public pronouncements. In today's Bulletin he declares that youngster Chris Solly 'had been unlucky not to be involved in his [PP's] first XI'. 'Unlucky'? Does Parky pick his squad with a pin, then?

And he's now made another tactical error in hitting back at those who booed him on Tuesday night. “It is strange really because at 2-1 up the fans were right behind the team. At 2-2 the frustration spills out on the manager, which in a way is understandable, but with one goal all of a sudden a section of the supporters turn on you. It isn’t ideal but what can I do about it?”

I think that a fair few fans, who have even less experience than him, could help him with some advice, particularly about closing down opposing players, denying them time on the ball and defending further forward than the penalty area, maybe with less than eleven players doing so. It's also desperately apparent, as I've said before, that no one seems to want the ball and when they get it the first thing they seem to want to do is work out how to off-load it again and leave the problem with someone else. To be fair to Parkinson these are problems that pre-dated his arrival, but being brutally honest he's already had plenty of time to put them right.

We're down and out, so let's at least blood the youngsters who'll have to carry the flag next season - what on earth is there to lose? Loan players (or imminently out-of-contract contracted players who we don't intend to keep) should take no part in the next two games. After all, we can't possibly be worse off as a result, and at least it'd give heart to the long-suffering supporters.

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Wednesday, 22-Apr-2009 10:19 Email | Share | | Bookmark
Attitudes to Season Ticket renewal

 
The positions being taken by members of our group have hardened since last night, especially since Parkinson's late substiutions arguably cost us the game.

The developing view is that, since there is no incentive for early Season Ticket renewal we might as well hang on into the summer and decide whether or not to renew once we know who the manager is and what the squad will be. The two disincentives to delaying would be;

1. The £25 cost of individual tickets.
If we continue to struggle low attendances and a bad start may see match day prices drop to £20 or even £15 for some games.

2. Not being able to guarantee getting the seat you want.
If last night is a reliable guide we'll be able to sit pretty much anywhere we like, even buying tickets on match days.

So, Charlton, we're sort of waiting for news from you about manager and players.

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Wednesday, 22-Apr-2009 08:30 Email | Share | | Bookmark
Silent unrest

CAFC 2 Cardiff 2, 21st April 2009
On match days our group of supporters that meets in the Rose of Denmark has a simple score prediction competition - the pot is shared between everyone who correctly predicted the final score.

When we were in the Premiership it was generally won by someone each week and only occasionally was there a 'rollover' to the next match. Since we've been in the Championship it's been quite different and on several occasions a sizeable pot has accumulated. By last night, with no one having correctly predicted the score in the previous four home games, the pot had reached £92 as we took our seats.

It certainly adds to the buzz of the evening when you're into the last ten minutes of a game with the scoreline either matching your prediction or just one goal away. I'd gone for 1-2, so I was out of it when our second goal went in, but I was sitting next to the chap who'd predicted 2-2 and whose loyalties were divided as the clock ran down at 2-1. In the end we reasoned that his feelings in no way influenced what happened on the pitch. When the second Cardiff goal went in at least he had something to balance the disappointment of another poor result.

Our defence is dreadful - just look at our goal difference and league position. Darren Ward had another steady game, so the spotlight falls on 'Mr. 'Udson'. Frankly. I think he's had a dreadful season, and recent interviews that indicate that he wants away because we're not good enough for him leave me hoping that we cash in and send him on his way, i.e. *he's* not good enough for *us*.

And in a leaky defence why on earth do we persist with the desperately unpredictable Kelly Youga? His concentration is dreadful, and his performances are made worse by rushes of blood to the head where he utterly lets us down. We've got a steadier, less cocky alternative in Grant Basey.

But the blindingly obvious problem is that no one seems to want the ball and it gets passed around as anxiously and carelessly as a ticking time bomb. On top of that, more than enough players seem to be thinking that Charlton's plight isn't their problem as they'll be off at the end of the season.

Another irritating point - why the hell are we still playing so many loan players when we're already relegated? Why not blood some of our home-grown youngsters ready for League 1? Or is it an unpleasant truth that we just don't have any quality coming through?

There just has to be a huge question mark over Parkison's future. His record is Won 3 Drawn 11 Lost 12, i.e. 20 out of 78 points. If he'd been made caretaker manager until the end of the season we could simply have let him go, but now we're faced with yet another payout if we want him to go - and we do.

There's no confidence that the rot has yet stopped. We still haven't bottomed out, and look set to struggle next season as well. The club seemingly budgeting to spend only one season in League 1 looks ridiculously optimistic at present. Strangely, one problem seems to be the calm acceptance of our situation by supporters. You'd have thought that by now there'd be rising pressure from the terraces for some sort of solution, but the board is being given all the time it wants as far as the fans are concerned, it seems.

However, the warning signs were there last night with a half empty stadium. This would be a good time for some sort of decisive announcement from the club that gave supporters hope for next season and encouraged them to renew their season tickets. At present, lowered prices or not, many of us are caught in indecision about whether to commit our hard-earned up front to a club that's adrift as far as leadership is concerned, mainly on the pitch but seemingly also elsewhere.

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Sunday, 19-Apr-2009 10:10 Email | Share | | Bookmark
Refund for poor performance

 
German Bundesliga team Cottbus went down 4-0 away from home on Friday and promptly refunded all of their travelling supporters for their 'pitiful performance'. Blimey!

See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8006621.stm

Based on the club's 2008/09 performance maybe Charlton should be giving us that free season ticket after all! And maybe the money should come from the vastly over-paid, terribly underperforming players, some of whom 'earn' in a single week almost as much as my net annual pension.

Just a thought

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Saturday, 18-Apr-2009 21:47 Email | Share | | Bookmark
Relegated - it's been a LONG time coming

CAFC 2 Blackpool 2, 18th April 2009
Maybe today we had a glimpse of what next season will be like, with a dearth of away supporters in the pub before the game and no opportunity for a matchday photo, even on a Saturday afternoon! Mind you, there were a fair few Seasiders in the ground, but heaven only knows where they entertained themselves beforehand.

Two quick goals at the start of the second half gave us hope of a rousing end to the season but, as so often happens, two hugely unlikely goals brought us back to 2-2 and with them de facto relegation.

For me, Lloyd Sam's performance was just what was needed, dashing repeatedly at the defence and creating opportunties around him. Shelvey one again showed inspirational touches that are bound to attract the attention of promoted clubs with money to spend, even though his lack of stamina contrasts oddly with his quickness of mind.

At half time I remarked that Youga was having a pleasantly uncontroversial game, but in the second half his temperament let him down yet again and he was booked. It's time to permanently replace him with Grant Basey - or even Matt Holland, for pity's sake.

Hudson's been dreadful for months, constantly getting caught out of position. Darren Ward alongside him looks far more assured. Mind you, I've stopped bellowing, 'Hudson' in exasperation since Ade alongside me started saying, "MISTER 'Udson, if you please".

Still, there'll be a fair few departures this summer, with quite a few players out of contract - see http://addickman-deepestdarkest.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-long.html - and the squad being cut to 22. Even so, it's apparent that the remains of this side could well struggle in League 1 unless Parkinson manages to conjure up some decent summer signings and weld them into a cohesive squad. It seems to me that the club's still heading south and that there's little sign that the slide will even slow down next season.

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